Feb 1, 2009 - Uncategorized    23 Comments

And we institutionally deny the existence of discriminatory laws?

Everyone who denies that there are any discriminatory laws in Pakistan should hide their faces in shame and vow to shut up for the rest of their lives.

Five members of the Ahmadiyya community including four children were charged with blasphemy under Section 295-C of the Pakistan Penal Code in Layyah on Wednesday. The children, aged 16 and younger, were detained at about 8pm after a complaint by a local cleric. Police have registered a case Tahir Imran (Aged 16), Tahir Mahmood (Aged 14), Naseer Ahmad (Aged 14), Muhammad Irfan (Aged14), and Mubashar Ahmad (45).

According to the First Information Report (FIR), the boys are accused of writing blasphemous material in latrines of Kot Sultan’s Gulzar-e-Madina mosque. The boys are students of grade nine and 10 at the Superior Academy in Chak 172/TDA of Layyah.

First of all, there is no proof if it is boys who had done it. Ahmaddiya community is a persecuted community in Pakistan and I don’t think they would do anything like this which would divert undue attention. If we assume that the boys have written something blasphemous on the walls of mosque latrines, should we not give them the benefit of being young lads who may have been carried away by something. In my opinion, it is way small a crime if compared with the crime of suicide bombings which have killed many people and blew places of worship in Pakistan.

According to Daily Times, The SHO has obtained a two-day remand of the boys which is in violation of Child Rights Convention which Pakistan signed in 1990.

A group of lawyers on Friday announced to argue the boys’ case for free, while a press release by the Asian Human Rights Commission (AHRC) condemned the charges against the four boys. The AHRC urged President Asif Ali Zardari to immediately intervene and order the release of the detained people.

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23 Comments

  • i get to read lot of distrubing facts from your page….

    but plain reality.. keep pouring

  • Tez,

    Thank you finally for bringing this pathetic part of our Pakistan to fore. It is sad, inhumane, and out right barbaric to know that this being the 21st century in Pakistan racism and bigotry remains entrenched in both the constitution and laws.

    It is truly sad to see these kids being hauled off to jail like that… sad, sad, sad!

    -Zoobee

  • Good on you Taz for writing on this topic.

  • Sigh. I am not shocked. I am now no longer shocked by whatever dose of reality you give me taz, you CAN NOT shock me no more, ‘fraid.

    There was a very tight-knit Ahmedi community back at my university, and they were nothing but charming, shy, decent and helpful.

    And then one day a jamiat classmate walked up to my ahmedi friend and gave her a piece of paper that was basically a jamati poll ballet asking whether or not ahmedis are non-muslims or not and whether they should be recognized or not, some crap like that. (yep, jamiat would often have these frequent unintelligble, pseudo-polls only their members would care to vote for, the majority of the university was usually disinterested).

    (btw i can assure you i gave the jamati boy a earful. you would be proud and shocked of your otherwise docile sidrah, taz)

  • What’s the matter with you? Ahmaddiyas (as well as Jews, blacks, Palestinians and “INSERT_FAVORITE_PERSECUTED_PEOPLE”) are aliens from another planet who are out to destroy the earth via their super-nova farts and lasers from their eyes. We should destroy them before they drag our planet to the Volmegaloopy black hole and start feeding on us.

    And we shouldn’t be worried about such petty issues as suicide bombings, illiteracy, poverty, extremism and the future. It’s some shameless, yet relatively harmless writing on the wall that we should be worried about.

    Sigh. When will we grow up?

  • Sidrah,

    Any girl who stands up to a Jamaati in a public university in Pakistan has earned my eternal respect.

    I am so proud of you.

    Xerxy,

    may be we want to change the writing on the wall. In any case, this writing is stale and jaded and badly need some whitewash.

  • Interesting how politics, religion and sex – all three of the dinner-table don’ts – always come up in heated debates about any one of them.

    Shows how much of a repressed society we are.

    Also I am very disturbed at people’s disparaging view of those who care too much about women’s rights.

  • oops…meant to sent that to the post on IK.

  • Apart from flare-ups of violence like this that get media attention, there is also the worst kind of social exclusion religious minorities face in Pakistan. As children we learn that Christians are ‘chooras’ and Jews are descended from monkeys. And Hindus, most of who are wont to drink cow piss, are just ‘paleed’.

  • Sidrah,
    I had a good Ahmedi friend in the private university I attended. He used to say his Jumma prayers regularly with the “Muslims” in the makeshift university mosque — everybody knew he was a Qadyani yet no one could stop him from going to a “Muslims’ mosque”.
    Want to know the reason? It wasn’t that we didn’t have fanatics around but rather the fact that he was the son of our university’s president — and being a strict head of the university he was sure to expel any idiot straightaway who tried to bring in religion in social life.

  • Bonjour Tazeen,

    How are made the laws in Pakistan? Is this through Parliament or is it simply based on 8th Century Sharia?

    Georg

  • Georg,
    the constitution of Pakistan was developed in 1973 was passed by the elected parliament. Most of the laws dealing with citizens are universal and their source is universal declaration of Human Rights.

    This particular ordinance was promulgated by the 1980s dictator General Zia who was Ronald Reagan’s blue eyed boy for his support on war against soviets. This ordinance, along with some other crazy legislation, was Gen. Zia’s way of Islamization.
    Blasphemy, or what this ordinance constitute blasphemy, was never a punishable crime, not even in the 8th century Arabia.

  • Its hard for the police/government to take a stand when you have an angry mob of people led by a Mullah ready to burn houses and generally wreck havoc…Its called democracy…The persecution of Ahmadis is according to the the will of its people…

  • “The persecution of Ahmadis is according to the the will of its people…”

    Will of its people is negated when the said will victimizes a segment of the population. It this reason why slavery was abolished in US of A, and it is this reason why 3/5th clause in the constitution was then too removed. Furthermore, it is this reason why/how South was desegregated. Of course, what I said is rather a gross summarization, nonetheless captures the spirit of fairness of citizens guaranteed by a constitution of a democratic country.

    Therefore, in case of persecution of Ahmadi’s is concerned, taking away the religious aspect out of the constitution of Pakistan will negate the justification of the persecution. The moral of the story is that in order to treat others with fairness a set of checks and balances is required in order to ensure a functioning democracy…

    Cheers!

    -Zoobee

  • Jahil

  • What kind of retarded racist post is this?

    have you given any evidence or ideas that why are the suspected culprits innocent ?
    or just because someone is qadiani makes them clean from every crime

  • “First of all, there is no proof if it is boys who had done it.”

    Kah – yeah it is rather retarded to read the entire article and miss out on the aforementioned line. Or, it is also retarded if you did not read the entire article…

    BTW what makes this post racist?

    -Zoobee is retarding the retarded

  • Actually their being Ahmadi was the only reason they were arrested in the first place. The prevailing logic is that the crime could not possibly have been committed by a ‘Muslim’ and they were the only ‘Non-Muslims'(voted by the Pakistan parliament by the will of the people) around. So lets grab them. They’re the only ones capable of such an act in the land of pure. And now they’re facing boycott from the intolerant, uneducated people of Layyah. To be fair it’s not their fault per se. They don’t know anything about Islam. The mob does what the Mullah tells them to do. Just like Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto knew nothing about Islam. He did what the Mullah told him to do. If an educated secular man like Bhutto stood no chance against the Mullah what can poor villagers do?

  • “Actually their being Ahmadi was the only reason they were arrested in the first place”

    And them being Ahmadi is also the ONLY reason why they can’t even be considered to lead the country… It’s in the constitution of Pakistan that only Muslims are allowed to loot the country… what a shame indeed!

    -Zoobee

  • 5 Ahmadis detained without proof of blasphemy: HRCP

    The HRCP team found that elements belonging to banned extremist organisations, and that a relative of a member of National Assembly (MNA) from the area had pressured the police to register a case. “It is clear that a local politician has also used his influence” to book the Ahmadis, the commission’s report said.

    HRCP said the complainant and his ‘extremist’ supporters were adamant that the Ahmadis should be punished on the basis of presumption.

    Full story: tinyurl.com/daz3hf

  • Let’s see what happens today, there are plans for today.

    ‘MNA promoting violent protest against Ahmadis’

    LAHORE: A Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) member of National Assembly from Layyah has instigated the local people to observe a protest today (Tuesday) against four teenagers and a man belonging to the Ahmadiyya community arrested on the charges of blasphemy, a rights body said on Monday. The accused will be brought before a court today. A press release issued on Monday by the Asian Human Rights Commission (AHRC) stated that some radical groups had announced a show of strength against Ahmadis to pressurise the court not to grant bail to the five Ahmadis. The accused were arrested on January 28 on charges of writing blasphemous comments in a mosque toilet. They were shifted to Dera Ghazi Khan Central Jail, where the fundamentalist groups had asked other inmates to ‘fix up’ the Ahmadis, according to the statement. The commission urged the Punjab government to stop the violent campaign.

    http://tinyurl.com/dg39gj

  • I am an american who moved out to “discover” myself a few years ago. At the time I was in the epitome of my naivete and thought you don’t know where you’re going if you don’t know where you came from. My “motherland” is pakistan. The fact is, I didn’t realize the amount of prejudice, racism, and illiteracy dominates this country and how unfortunate it is that i can’t even speak up for my own safety. The fact that you have the backbone to speak up just gives me hope that maybe the entire fate of the country isn’t doomed. Maybe good people do exist here. Maybe i was wrong?! perhaps. I know a few ahmadis at this med school i attend who are discriminated to such a barbaric extent that people deem it necessary to act in such a way that they can’t even eat their meals, or atleast try live in coexistence. If only people spoke up in this country, not just for ahmadis, but for all religious/racial/ethnic minorities. The root of all evil is intolerance. You make me proud that perhaps in the near future i won’t be ashamed that I’m an american of pakistani origin. Thank you.

  • I am an american who moved out to “discover” myself a few years ago. At the time I was in the epitome of my naivete and thought you don’t know where you’re going if you don’t know where you came from. My “motherland” is pakistan. The fact is, I didn’t realize the amount of prejudice, racism, and illiteracy dominates this country and how unfortunate it is that i can’t even speak up for my own safety. The fact that you have the backbone to speak up just gives me hope that maybe the entire fate of the country isn’t doomed. Maybe good people do exist here. Maybe i was wrong?! perhaps. I know a few ahmadis at this med school i attend who are discriminated to such a barbaric extent that people deem it necessary to act in such a way that they can’t even eat their meals, or atleast try live in coexistence. If only people spoke up in this country, not just for ahmadis, but for all religious/racial/ethnic minorities. The root of all evil is intolerance. You make me proud that perhaps in the near future i won’t be ashamed that I’m an american of pakistani origin. Thank you.

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